Daishi September 23, 2020 12:57 AM There was a headline from August about Licid Air's 517 mile range beating Tesla and the Plaid has 520. The Licid dream addition will have 1,080 HP and start at $162k vs the Plaid at 1,100 HP at $140k. The dream addition has a 2.5 second 0-60 vs the Plaid at < 2 seconds. The Plaid edition will beat Licid to market with better specs on paper and a lower price and Lucid still needs to finish building their factory and setting up a support network. I commented on the Lucid article that new BEV companies are in a race to find niche areas of the market faster than Tesla can close the gaps in their product line and it looks like Tesla won this race which could cost Lucid potentially everything. I know Tesla doesn't have perfect quality but there is really no chance I would choose the $180k Lucid Dream Edition over the $140k Plaid even if they were the same price. Mzungu_Mkubwa September 23, 2020 06:22 AM I've often wondered why they don't "roll" these cylindrical batteries into a hexagonal cross-section profile. It would have a similar density benefits yet allow the finished cells to nest nicely into a honeycomb framework. But, I'm sure there's a good reason not to, right? vince September 23, 2020 07:32 AM Great breakthroughs but they are 18 to 36 months in the future. Not current. Therefore disappointing. AbsolutJohn September 23, 2020 09:30 AM I love it. “Plaid Mode” For those that still don’t get it - great “Space Balls” reference to a ridiculously fast warp-speed, used thusly: “Holy sh#t! They’ve gone plaid!!” BlueOak September 23, 2020 11:03 AM 0-60 mph in 2 seconds requires some impressive rubber-road interfaces simply to achieve the required traction in a sedan. We’ll believe the $25K price when we see them actually getting delivered. $30k & $40K price promises were also elusive. Musk truly never sleeps. Username September 23, 2020 11:05 AM I'd like to know when a vehicle with the "56%" battery is projected to roll out of the factory. Same for the two part cast supported by the structural battery car. FB36 September 23, 2020 11:43 AM IMHO, all Tesla vehicles really need range extenders! Not everybody always have easy access to charging places etc!& it would be best, if it can be a gas turbine generator (add-on) that can use almost any kind of fuel (especially (bio)diesel)! Nobody September 23, 2020 12:27 PM Something about 5X the energy and 6X the power but only 16% more range doesn't add up for me. I'm also sure that a heavy foot would drastically reduce range. I'd like some data on range vs. speed. My 500+ HP Corvette gets 28-30 mpg if I stay light on the gas pedal but quickly drops to 8 mpg if I feel frisky. I could see that 500 mile Tesla range dropping dramatically if driven hard. Ferdi Louw September 23, 2020 02:47 PM "six times as powerful, hold five times the energy and allow Tesla vehicles a range increase of as much as 16 percent"Who is lying? Grunchy September 23, 2020 11:20 PM A Corvette loses gas mileage when you stomp the gas a lot because gas engines are efficient only in a tight rpm band. Electric motors are highly efficient over a much wider rpm band because the efficiency of electric energy conversion isn't dependent on motor speed.So keep in mind kinetic energy = 0.5 * mass * speed^2, so a 4000 lb car going at 60 mph has kinetic energy of 0.18 kW*hr. That's the energy it takes to accelerate from 0 mph to 60 mph and has nothing to do with the rate of acceleration, unless it's a combustion engine which unfortunately is inefficient at wide open throttle.So if a Tesla has a battery capacity of 75 kW*hr that means you can accelerate 0-60 mph about 400 times before the battery runs out, notwithstanding regenerative braking each time you do that, because pressing the brakes puts some of that 0.18 kW*hr back into the battery.(75 kW*hr ÷ 0.18 kW*hr = about 400 times).I'm not buying any of these high-price EVs because the manufacturers make them unserviceable, and are doing their best to make it a crime to service your own electric vehicle (see Louis Rossmann's famous warnings on Youtube, and all the problems Rich Rebuilds has with his Tesla also on Youtube).