Slowburn March 20, 2013 08:33 PM I fail to understand why one would think that car sharing (An idea that would seam to keep the car in operation for extended periods) would combine well with the pathetically short range of an electric vehicle. The Skud March 20, 2013 10:17 PM I agree with Slowburn ... After a couple of trips across the city the next driver(s) would be getting a much shorter limit on distance allowed. 60 odd miles looks reasonable until you start to divide it into several trips, not just one there-and-back commute. Rann Xeroxx March 20, 2013 11:25 PM Cost is always the killer on these things. If it cost more then a nice motorcycle, I would buy the bike. Nick 1801 March 21, 2013 04:48 AM If they made it just a little bit longer they could put in a second seat behind the first, which could be used either for a friend, a child or the groceries. Surely that would make it more saleable. zevulon March 21, 2013 06:47 AM fully charging 6.5 kwh in 2 hours on a household outlet. 3.2kw through a 'household' outlet. i'm sure if you could fork over 15k for a custom 'household' outlet with extra wiring, circuit breakers and everything else needed to manage 3.2 kw of power going through wiring into a battery , then yea. you can call that 'household'. mind you at 110 volts in the u.s. that would mean 30 amps going through a wire. at 15 or less , all u.s. household circuits short out. at 15------if you are passing max current through your wiring in your house for 2 full hours, if you can avoid at not tripping your circuit breakers----you will succeed at eventually melting your wiring and starting an electrical fire that will destroy your 'household'. yes, one of the reasons people don't buy electric cars is because the advertising is either an exaggeration or an outright lie. particularly with charging time to full pack, and range per hour of charing. BigGoofyGuy March 21, 2013 11:00 AM I think it is a good idea as an inner city commuter. I think a fuel cell (with some being developed are smaller and cost less) being a good range extender. I think the roof could use a few solar cells/panels (they too are getting smaller and more effecient). I think it is good for those who live in the city but only travel around the city. It would help reduce pollution in the city; especially if the 'car port' they are parked in has solar panels and/or wind turbines to recharge the batteries. Hopefully it won't cost as much as the Tango electric vehicle. Sam McRae March 21, 2013 02:03 PM The wiring issues (US domestic) are addressed by the fact most houses today have at least one 220 VAC @ 20 Amp off of two phase opposed 115 VAC lines available for the electric dryer. Germany has standard outlet voltages of 220 - 240 VAC with 10 to 15 amp breakers... which could account for the seemily nonchalant assumption that 3+KW is commonly availble in the household. jerryd March 21, 2013 02:16 PM If you slowburn fail to see why EV's are perfect for car sharing and many other purposes, it's not others problem, it's yours.Depending on the price but for me and many not being able to carry at least 4-6 cubic feet, makes it a non starter. Space costs little and adds so much usefulness.But it is small but better designed EV's with, for this one as an example, just a 4kw range extending generator gives it unlimited range at well over 150mpg, just pop it on rear brackets or trailer hitch and the range problem disappears. Add I think 2 seats and decent cargo, 4 bags or so, adds little to cost but so much more in value. StWils March 21, 2013 04:41 PM All of the preceding comments including the clueless snotty comments have at least some merit, especially given the degree to which slowburn & others really miss the point. A solution that works would evolve to have a range of form factors for different users. The element not mentioned is the municipal part along the line of parking meters that act as a charging dock, parking spot, and an "intersection" for various users. Some would own their rides, some would rideshare, all would park & recharge before continuing on their way. The battery range, life, and importantly, the cost issues are all getting better. In the next 2 to 3 years far better LiFePo or very similar such lithium batteries should arrive on the market with charge densities initially 3 times greater, NO heating issues, and a life span some thing like 5 times longer and also at essentially the same price as today's batteries. Beyond that there are some intriguing lab toy ideas for fuel cells that MAY abruptly change the energy use "Landscape". In some respects this and similar urban car ideas are like Kodak's first try at a digital desktop picture frame. Unfortunately for Kodak, they were about 10 years too far ahead for full digital imaging solutions and the networking tools available to succeed. At some point, many people such as SlowClue will look back when all the right innovations are integrated and proclaim that they saw this coming and someone should have done this or that or whatever sooner. Cé hé sin March 21, 2013 05:50 PM #zevulon: is getting 3 kw or so from a domestic supply really such an issue on your side of the Atlantic? An electric kettle is 2.5 kw and they seem to manage just fine. You'd typically have a 30A circuit in the kitchen to power the cooker and that'll give 6kw plus which seems more than adequate for the job at hand.