Fretting Freddy the Ferret pressing the Fret July 31, 2014 03:58 PM I guess we all need to become vegetarians. That, or burn more rainforests for more arable land. Seriously though, I see more and more young people around me turning to eating less meat for health and environmental reasons. Insect farms will spring up everywhere as that will steadily become more of a source of protein for people. Seaweed will be grown in coastal regions and be incorporated more of as a staple food like in Asia. It requires no arable land, no water, no fertilizer and is healthy. Paul van Dinther July 31, 2014 04:05 PM Stick to facts guys. There is enough wishful Armageddon thinking out there. 1 there isn't any warming 2 Greenland would make a great farm 3 they nitpick on miniscule factors ignoring warming benefits to plants (greenhouses are build to aid plant growth) 4 increased CO2 is great for plant growth 5 GM and shifts in eating habits are always possible Typical GW scare report with a narrow focus. Stick to facts and science please. Bruce Schuck July 31, 2014 04:58 PM The Dumb Farmer Syndrome assumes all farmers are stupid and that if the climate changes they will keep trying to grow the same crop forever instead of just adapting to the new climate. In fact, if temperatures were to actually climb, farming could take place further norther and in the warmest regions more tropical type crops would be grown. Kevin Murphy July 31, 2014 05:33 PM Mr. Paul van Dinther----- In regards to your post, I would like you to back up your statements with factual based research as well... 1. Can you show me results that imply CO2 isn't on the rise and that it hasn't been due to human abuse of the land? In turn doesn't increased levels of CO2 lead to increases of temperature (Most of the light energy from the sun is emitted in wavelengths shorter than 4,000 nanometers (.000004 meters). The heat energy released from the earth, however, is released in wavelengths longer than 4,000 nanometers. Carbon dioxide doesn't absorb the energy from the sun, but it does absorb some of the heat energy released from the earth. When a molecule of carbon dioxide absorbs heat energy, it goes into an excited unstable state. It can become stable again by releasing the energy it absorbed. Some of the released energy will go back to the earth and some will go out into space. So in effect, carbon dioxide lets the light energy in, but doesn't let all of the heat energy out, similar to a greenhouse.) 2. I assume you are attempting humor with your Greenland statement so I'll disregard your bandaid solution as a joke 3. I was wondering if you could list the "benefits" to plants regarding increased levels of CO2 4. The basic plant food argument is that since plants need CO2 to grow, more CO2 means, by proxy, more sustained and robust plant growth globally. A quick look at the science behind this argument demonstrates its inherent weaknesses. In closed, controlled environments, like greenhouses and plant nurseries, an increase in CO2 does indeed spur plant growth. However, the globe is not a controlled environment, and it’s incredible sensitivity to a variety of factors is something that is often taken for granted when such narrow arguments are proffered. A rise in CO2 levels is not the only consequence of climate change, and it is these other effects that have had and will have more abiding adverse effects on plant growth around the world. While CO2 is an important element that stimulates plant growth, the planet's flora requires a cocktail of elements to maintain its health. Arguably the most important of these elements is water. With the global increase in temperature caused by the various factors affecting our climate's balance, increased evaporation means decreased soil moisture. Another effect of global climate change is erratic precipitation patterns. This causes extreme weather in certain geographic locations only sporadically, with overall, balanced rainfall drastically reduced. 5. "Shifts in eating habits are always possible" what are you getting at with this statement? If we are shifting our eating habits isn't that proof that our unsustainable living habits have caught up to us, which contradicts your argument? b@man July 31, 2014 06:05 PM Absolute BS. We are in a cooling period. The warmest year was 1930. Recent discoveries have revealed lies and distortions in the reporting. NOAA has been falsifying temperatures. The whole concept was a lie from the beginning and now we know that, but the liars and deceivers are still pumping out the lie for personal gain. Warming increases yields, If yields decrease it will be because of cooling. We have all had quite enough of the man made warming lie. It's time to put that BS behind us and move on. Wally3178 July 31, 2014 10:30 PM I'm sorry, I can't accept any of this at all, its rubbish. When today, they can't make annual crop forecasts with any degree of accuracy, how can they now pop up and tell us what it will be like in 2050? Meteorologists and greenies are the worst offenders, telling us what the climate will be like in 50 years when they can't even get the forecast for next Tuesday right. Daishi August 1, 2014 01:04 AM Warming may be more tolerable for crops in the coldest climates but that's also not where people tend to live. It took just 39 years for the world population to double from 3 to 6 billion: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Population-doubling.svg The UN growth projections are based on declining growth rates and put the 2050 population at ~9.6 billion but hopefully they are right because if it were closer to 13 billion we would have some issues. The downside to the UN prediction is as poor countries become industrialized (leading to their slower growth rate) their energy usage per person also climbs to something closer to the rest of the industrialized world. We are already over-consuming many of the worlds resources. We already have mass deforestation, over fishing, wildlife extinction etc. Daishi August 1, 2014 01:07 AM @Wally3178 day to day changes are harder to predict than overall trends. This is related: www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBdxDFpDp_k Graham R August 1, 2014 01:44 AM If this is true, the obvious solution is to increase CO2 levels to stimulate plant growth - 2000pmm might be a good target;) ... or grow other crops that prefer the warmer weather. Don't take me (or this article) too seriously. BeWalt August 1, 2014 02:42 AM Hahahahaha...some earlier comments I'm reading here make it clear that not only 1) humans most definitely *will* die out in the near future, in a self-inflicted way - but also 2) the human race most definitely *deserves* to die out. This is totally reminiscent of Monty Python's movie "Erik the Viking", the scene in which Atlantis is sinking and its inhabitants sit atop the last bits sticking out of the water, and are denying that it's sinking at all. And the last denier only stops when water gets into his mouth. Yes, that's how it's gonna be! The Fox News guy gets to turn the lights off, blaming the end on "greenies" and "communists". But it's all good, hey: We are just another dead evolutionary end. A short fart. Something smarter than us will arise.