LTWAN January 23, 2011 02:37 PM What method does you use to justify this study? Todd Dunning January 23, 2011 03:38 PM Beating 2005\'s dead horses is unworthy of gizmag, a technology blog that is supposed to bring us the future.A headline like \'Deforestation driving CO2 buildup\' assumes a percentage of the readership hasn\'t already figured out the AGW nonsense for themselves. The subject is completely dead in the MSM, so it\'s surprising to see the corpse re-animated here of all places.Deforested areas have grown back completely to their pre-1970\'s levels due to third world farmers returning to the cities. And unless you are in a \'Department of Global Ecology\' paid to keep the inflow of grants coming in, there\'s not too much anymore for a Greenie to do. Reason January 23, 2011 10:07 PM Todd, hard to imagine more ignorance crammed into a couple of paragraphs, but if you think deforestation has slowed, let alone reversed you need to get out more into your own world if not the third world.Just as a small sample of what you will find, here is a simple graphic from Borneo (third world enough for you?);http://maps.grida.no/go/graphic/extent-of-deforestation-in-borneo-1950-2005-and-projection-towards-2020 Ludwig Heinrich January 23, 2011 10:20 PM Interesting enough but I would have appreciated either an explication of their methodology or a link to the study. donwine January 24, 2011 11:20 AM The biggest problem facing mankind today is apathy. Subtle January 24, 2011 12:53 PM Mongol expansion \"causing\" GW and even investigating that the Black Death did not \"cause\" global warming. It\'s so funny that I almost spewed my coffee over my keyboard.Many historians consider that extension of the Mongols south into China was partly driven by pronounced climate cooling following the Medieval Warm Period.This hit Europe rather suddenly when an unusually active period of volcanic activity erupted in Iceland beginning in the early 1300s. Such cooling and increase in precipitation forced severe crop failures such that there was a 10 percent die off. Cooling continued and some researchers consider that this weakened the health of the population which made Europe more susceptible to the Plague, when deaths amounted to one/third to one/half of the population. Todd Dunning January 24, 2011 05:28 PM mcsblues, since I am not a Lefty I will not insult you personally; simply educate you on the value of facts instead of emotions:Der Spiegel, \"Tropiocal Comeback\":http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,642199,00.html\"...Is the rainforest truly recovering from overexploitation? And could it be that the consequences of deforestation are not as devastating as environmentalists have been preaching for years?\"There are more secondary than primary rainforests in most tropical countries today,\" explains American biologist Joe Wright. \"On the whole, the amount of land covered by vegetation is stable.\" In tropical countries, in particular, rural flight and urbanization have led to more and more farmers abandoning their fields, allowing new vegetation to grow rampant on the fallow ground. \"The numbers speak for themselves,\" says Wright.\" Facebook User January 24, 2011 05:50 PM Those of you who do not believe in global warming are tratorous to themselves, their country and, of course the environment the we need to survive with.Here\'s proof: CO2 is an infrared absorber, proven.No more need be said, really, but here\'s more. The count has risen 40% in exact correlation with our fossil fuels use (About 100 CUBIC MILES FF\'s converted into CO2).Ice caps are coincidentally melting.What more do you want! Oh, \"it\'s not nice to mess with mother nature\" (that\'ll do it!)Solution: Robotically mass produce solar PV. We already have the tech, just not the will to overcome (yell with a bit of sarcasm) OIL DEPLETION...The Chinese are already doing it successfully (and do you think they are doing it just to be green?), We should be doing it for the THOUSANDS OF SQUARE MILES OF INSTALL JOBS TOO! Here\'s the link...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5nJjlbU5lMGet it? Reason January 24, 2011 06:59 PM Todd, did you actually read the article you referred me to?\"\"The conditions in the small country of Panama cannot be generalized. In the Amazon, cattle ranchers and the agricultural industry are destroying the jungle on a large scale. The undergrowth that thrives in cleared areas is a caricature of a forest.\"Even Wright concedes that Brazil is a \"key region\" for the future of the rainforest. Three-quarters of the Amazon jungle lie in Brazilian territory. Nowhere else is the forest being destroyed so recklessly.\"\"\"Within no more than five years, most of the secondary forests will be burned down or cut down again,\" he says. Cattle ranchers use the fallow fields as pasture, while farmers plant soybeans or cereal crops.\"There\'s more - try reading it again.Oh, and its interesting you think I\'m a \"lefty\". What does politics have to do with being able to see the overwhelming evidence of, and sound science behind our influence on climate change? Are you saying because of your political views you just don\'t want it to be true? Todd Dunning January 24, 2011 11:43 PM mcsblues, global warming...er...climate change...er...global climate disruption; which one are we arguing? Let\'s just pick the middle one for now.We deniers are in a comfortable spot, without our reputation on the line or the possibility of being publicly shown to be fools susceptible to the most juvenile hoax of the century so far. It\'s why I can show my real name here, and you don\'t want to.After you graduate and get a few years of life experience you\'ll find that things that sound oh-so right and good not only mean nothing, but usually are the opposite. The apocalypse theme in particular has always worked for those who seeking to influence the naive and impressionable. In today\'s world, this means liberals. That is why not only do I \"think\" you\'re a Lefty, it is proven by what you have written, and your emotional attachment to this \"scientific\" subject. Followed by ad hominems of \"ignorance crammed into a couple of paragraphs\" that show you can\'t really prove your point.Like creationism, AGW was invented to serve an ignorant, easily swayed demographic searching for validation of their views. Your response is directly in line with the rest of your group, blissfully unaware that AGW has already dropped out of MSM news cycle for a year, and has been publicly declared \'under review\' by the IPCC itself.