nehopsa
Why? Why a dual drive?

You either have to have a fixed gear (for the motor) or triple internal hub (for pedaling), neither of which is satisfactory on its own.

I really find an additional motor that drives the SAME chain (and uses the same pedaling derailer gearing) a simpler and more effective solution.
Lensgypsy
I think any hybrid solution like this the bike has to be lite. If not, the extra weight is extra pedaling work. Also, having two chains is not elegant (I agree with Nehopsa). But since they are made up of ready-made parts, I guess it is a boon for hobbyists. There are many mountain bikes out there. If someone can come up with an easy to install DIY kit to turn a m-bike into an e-bike. I think many people will be interested if it saves them $$$. Of course, it has to comply with most e-bike onroad regulations!
windykites
I wouldn\'t like to hit a pot hole at 45mph! Ouch! This bike sure looks complicated.
sonic
The 60 lbs does not bother me if I stay on the flat land and use the power for acceleration. But using a nexus hub for a powered bike seems wrong since shimano says it\'s not to be used for even mountainbiking. And I think it looks col with the double chain.
PeetEngineer
Found another article that says it weighs 60lbs - 10lbs heavier than a fully kitted DH bike, so you wouldn\'t for instance be able to just use that motor to get you up to speed and continue on leg power only at 25/30mph or so, you\'ll need that motor running all the time to maintain any decent speed. Probably a blast to ride though, and a 15 mile range is long enough for a short commute, then how long to recharge?
alcalde
How is this concept any different than an ordinary moped (at least the ones with pedals)?
Bob Kiger
At GLOBIKE llc. we have a finished GLOBIKE drivetrain that allows any mountain bike to be converted to a legal electric-bicycle. It is crazy to push beyond US legal limits because the cycle becomes a motor-vehicle and cannot be used for inter-modal tranport. It must be licensed as a mo-ped or other type of motor vehicle depending on state. It requires insurance and a special class drivers license.
If that isn\'t enough the payload of this bicycle is not close to the 400 pounds our GLOBIKE drive-train equipped mountain bicycle currently enjoys and our range is from 50-80 miles with dual LiFePO4 15aH [tested in real world condition] can carry. Also kindly remember that cycle life of LiFePO4 is 2000 cycles. We estimate that a fully loaded GLOBIKE e-cycle can run for 1 penny per mile.
We are currently building a complete GLOBIKE Mustang bicycle that should be ready for release in 2nd Quarter 2012. Drive-trains will be available sooner for conversions.
RWP
Thank you for your interest in my work - I want to remind everybody that this is a work in progress, not a \"for production\" effort - it is my exploration of the potentialities, possibilities and limitations of electric two wheeled vehicles using mainly bicycle components.
Any and all constructive criticism is greatly appreciated, since it is my desire to move this technology forward.
tkj
Nice prototype, but it has a way to go before being useful except to the experimenter. My own eZee Titanium with 14Ah LiPoly is street-legal (fed law allows up to 20mph) and gives me a range of 30 mi with mild pedaling. The controller system allows full motor drive force merely if the pedals are moving, even if near zero pedal force being applied. A 2nd parallel 14Ah gives me potential of 60 miles (which is in excess of my butt\'s ability to tolerate a bike seat!). When i attach the trailer (100 lb carrying capacity) and put two more 14Ah \'s in there, well, we\'re starting to talk \'trans-continental!\' .. all without the added weight of a dual drive train. True, it costs some $$\'s .. but at my age, what is money anyway??? Is the goal to fill one\'s coffin with it?? haha.
DaveWesely
Yep, legally in the US, an electric assist bicycle is limited to 20mph under assist, so this bike would be considered a moped. In terms of using the same method on a soft-tail bike, it would complicate things without a shared motor/pedal bottom bracket pivot point. It is a much better solution than a hub motor though. I like.