SteveMc
A couple of important points missed out from the BBC report:
“ It will use surplus electricity from wind farms at night to compress air so hard that it becomes a liquid at -196 Celsius.”
And:
(British inventor) “Mr Dearman said his invention was 60-70% efficient, depending how it is used.”
WONKY KLERKY
From there, when Carrington complete and running
+
probably subsequent sister sites of varying size and finite design detail variations to the completion point of having settled all known prob's associated with concept for all sizes of plants and they running and proven,
ie. When they do get process up and running and fully proven over the spectrum of possibilities for plant available,
THEN
the logical next step of supporting the proposals, (last known to me being French),
for compressed air driven vehicles will be hard, if not impossible, to ignore
for at least light city types of car and delivery vehicles.
Wonder how that'll go down with the battery brigade + the H2 faction ?
michael_dowling
WONKY KLERKY: The air powered car concept goes back to 2012,and nothing came of it. Powering a car with compressed air is very inefficient,around 25-35%. See: https://www.torquenews.com/1080/whatever-happened-compressed-air-car-anyway
DaveWesely
If the compressed air needs to kept at -197C to maintain fluid, ongoing refrigeration will be needed for long term storage. That reduces the long term efficiency, unlike most chemical storage systems. Batteries make a better short term storage with their simplicity and conversion efficiency.
TechGazer
“Mr Dearman said his invention was 60-70% efficient, depending how it is used.”

I'm quite skeptical about that efficiency claim. I'm guessing that number is more dependent on how the figure is calculated, meaning what is left out of the calculation. IIRC, heat engines have a maximum efficiency determined by the temperature difference (Carnot efficiency), so the turbine is probably going to be under 60%. Then there's pump and generator inefficiencies, and imperfect insulation. The actual overall efficiency will have to be measured as kw out / kw in.
phissith
Cooling air into liquid. That sounds like a novelty idea. How efficient is it? Would be cool if this works on Submarine.
phissith
Want water, got it. Want oxygen, got it!
S Redford
An interesting technology, but more information is needed. The 60 to 70% efficiency claim is repeated in the Frost & Sullivan report available on their website. I’d like to hear what the turn round efficiency is over time. When storing liquid air at near atmospheric pressure you need to bleed some air such that the evaporation covers the thermal losses of the tank. Over time liquid air can become oxygen enriched due to preferential evaporation of nitrogen. I suspect the efficiency reduces over time and may be time limited.
bwana4swahili
Sounds more like another eco-activist boondoggle rather than a practical idea. The overall efficiency will ultimately kill the project! But I guess the government has nothing better on which to spend taxpayer money!?
Bodger
A comment was made about the necessity to refrigerate the liquid air to maintain it. This should not be a problem -- high-efficiency insulation can keep it liquid almost indefinitely if there is enough of it. If the idea was to store fora long period, weeks or months, then there might be a problem but this concept is for a peaking or smoothing source on the grid, not some sort of "maybe we'll need it next year" solution.