paul314
$7 a gallon subsidy required? So about 4x the cost of conventional fuel. Hmm. On the other hand, if the CO2 sources were paying a carbon tax, they'd be paying the company about as much as the company is currently paying them, just to take the emissions off their balance sheet.
EJ222
Didn't y'all just publish another article on a 2-step electrolysis efficiency breakthrough? No idea of this company would have access to that tech, but someone should email them the link, and I'm surprised it didn't come up in the interview.


Anyway, yeah, this is super cool. 2x the cost, with room to go down, is really not that bad, though having to seek out renewable power for the electrolysis is a big caveat.
alexD
ok.. so, yeah, tell me everything, literally, to the last step, where that zero-emission hydrogen is coming from.......
skierpage
This reduces CO2 emissions, but the headline is misleading: it isn't "zero carbon" until it gets its CO2 from direct air capture. Loz Blain points this out near the start, "you find an industrial operation that can't avoid releasing a heap of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. You capture that carbon..." That industrial operation is probably producing CO2 from fossil fuels.

My fear is the industrial CO2 emitter and the P2X fuel user will both claim they're carbon neutral, which is double-counting. I would be really impressed if the Infinium CEO announced that some industrial CO2 emitter was going to use this process to supply itself with fuel from its own CO2 emissions.

The increased fuel costs are daunting. Hydrogen Economy™ hypers promote dubious uses for green hydrogen like HFCVs because current industrial users aren't interested in paying three times more for green hydrogen, and the same will happen with P2X fuels without large taxes or subsidies. But I would gladly pay $300 more for a flight if it was fueled by P2X fuels.
Jinpa
"... so the plastic would permanently sequester the CO2.". Right? And never break down? Aren't we seeing articles about how plastic eventually breaks down into particles which get into the food chain? This guy sounds like a real fast-talker. Maybe he needs to hook up with the enzyme community, which also is getting NewAtlas space. https://newatlas.com/materials/embedded-enzymes-compostable-plastics/
ScienceFan
If this were to happen today the worldwide CO2 emission would go up. Why you may ask? Wel there is not enough renewable energy. So all of the extra power that is needed will come from the marginal power production which is natural gas and solar. Coupled with the overall 50% efficiency at best this is a highly misleading story. The net effect will be an increase in emissions. Only when the grid is decarbonized will this start to make sense. That will take a long time. Decarbonizing the grid has to have priority.
Theo Van Andel
talking about percentages is one thing, if calculating how much green power is needed to produce the fuel for one flight from London to NewYork and back, you get a different picture. This is close to impossible to achieve due to the amount of energy needed. SkyNRG calculated that for an annual production of 30.000 tonnes of artificial kerosine we need around 150 megawatts. and amount is not even enough to have one daily flight from London to NewYork. So nice initiative, but will mostly be used by airlines and other heavy polluters for the well know green washing..
KeithW
This would surely require vast quantities of water. Where will this come from in a pure enough form to electrolyse ? Water as a resource just to quench humanity's thirst is, in many areas, a dwindling resource. I have read learned texts which propose wars will be fought over water in the future. Just asking...
ndrwknght
Airliner exhausts make 3% of total carbon dioxide emissions, but are emitted in the stratosphere where there is little moisture or vertical convection to bring them to earth. They may linger there for months or years, so their polluting effect is infinitely worse than at ground level. Infinium's idea is green-washing at its worst.
bwana4swahili
$7/gallon is about double the current goin price BUT hopefully efficiencies of scale and technology advances could reduce this significantly. At $4/gallon it would be competitive with fossil fuels prices (which include Carbon Tax). Has promise to hold current CO2 levels...