aki009 November 17, 2017 02:20 AM "Geoengineering" the climate is like plastic surgery. Do so at your own peril, as things will never go back to the way they were even if you stop. (insert Human Ken Doll picture here) WilliamSager November 17, 2017 03:17 AM Perhaps a better debate is where and how are we going to make a volcano. aksdad November 17, 2017 06:44 AM Interesting conundrum: Naomi Klein believes the climate models when they say that human CO2 emissions are rapidly warming the planet, but is unpersuaded by them when they say that injecting aerosols will mitigate warming. We skeptics on the other hand consistently point out that the general circulation models are severely deficient at modeling climate, which is consistent with what the IPCC Fifth Assessment Report demonstrated. Any projections based on GCMs are no more likely to be accurate than prophesies based on examination of sheep entrails. Reddog November 17, 2017 06:56 AM The Climate Alarmists want you to believe the sky is falling. There have been 7 ice ages so far followed by global warming - confirmed by the 'Vostok Ice Core Samples'. This is due to 10,000 year solar sunspot cycles followed by latency. So there's nothing you can do about it. You won't mitigate it you won't stop it. And most geothermal activity is underwater anyway - that is how most carbon gets in the atmosphere. But even that's a red herring: Water vapor is the primary greenhouse gas not C02: The later is offset by reforestation since plants breathe it and create oxygen. The hysteria emanates from a loud minority of leftist watermelons and crackpots who want to shut down western civilization and redistribute your wealth. It will be stolen by central banks and loaned to the third world at usurious rates they can never repay; so when it comes time to pay the piper, they can plunder the natural resources of quisling debtor states. Bob November 17, 2017 11:24 AM A few years ago, to counter global warming, I postulated a short lived jet fuel additive that would make jet contrails more reflective during daylight hours and the additive would not be used during night flights. If for some reason the effects were negative, it could be discontinued immediately with no long lasting effects. I got a polite email back from Richard Branson that he was not interested. To much political liability? I don't know. On a side note, I've noted several area weather stations are reporting slightly warmer temperatures than they did 30 years ago. I also noted that 30 years ago these stations were primarily surrounded by farm land. Now they are surrounded by streets, shopping centers and subdivisions. Is much of the global warming data biased? It would appear so. piperTom November 17, 2017 12:10 PM Imagine a gaggle of politicians... No, not the ideal wise and selfless sort from movies. The actual people that gain power in the political systems that we really have. And then include the lobbyists. Now, it THIS the sort of crowd you want to hand power over the climate? otto17 November 17, 2017 02:18 PM Growing up in the ‘50s I looked forward to autumn, piling up leaves, jumping into them from a step ladder (yes we were allowed to do stupid things; that’s how we learned not to do them), and the smell of the burning leaves. Alas, the scientists killed that joy with warnings of the returning global cooling and mini ice-age if we didn’t control the particles we were sending into the atmosphere which were filtering out the sun’s rays. So the governments passed laws against burning the leaves. I miss those days. Then came global warming and I admonished my children that the global warming was probably due to the fact we could no longer burn leaves, but no one would listen… until now? Solution: screw the idea of inventing man-made volcanos; wipe the burning leaves laws from the books and grant an old man a final autumn with the smell of burning leaves. Apparently, according to 20th century scientists, that will cool things down, but now, half a century later, this will save the world instead. Until of course 50 more years from now we will realize that man is the cause of a new global warming threat. In my life I only dreamed of becoming that influential. By all means listen to the scientists; they know best. They will probably try to figure out a way to poke the Yellowstone Caldera. Good luck to you all! watersworm November 17, 2017 02:23 PM @ piperTOM ; "To hand power over the climate" ??? Waow, at last Man becomes the equal of GOD! Douglas Bennett Rogers November 17, 2017 04:28 PM Moving agriculture and population out of the desserts would be a much more effective use of money. This would have the greatest effect on returning radiation to space. Don Duncan November 17, 2017 04:35 PM We can all be thankful that we don't suffer under a world govt., i.e., we have anarchy. We are told total anarchy is chaos but that has not been the case. The so-called wild-west was stateless and contrary to the statist propagandistic history, it was not wild, unorganized, or chaotic. Imagine the world controlled by one political entity. A policy to experiment with world climate could be easily forced on everyone. If it turned out to be based on overly confident, arrogant bureaucratic hubris (politics as usual), the whole world would be in danger. Who would be to blame? TPTB who do what they always do, use their power? Or the masses who keep empowering them, resulting in disastrous consequences? When will they ever learn? When will people stop trusting strangers and trust themselves? When will people self-govern, self-organize, self-control? Isn't that politically mature? Isn't choosing rulers self-enslavement? Shouldn't we act like sovereign individuals?