The Skud September 18, 2013 06:39 AM MAN TGA 8x8 - If I was driving around Australia, I would love one of these! Much better for off-road outback driving than an overpriced, over-blinged Winnebago. All I need is a big Keno win (sob) Isaac Hanninen September 18, 2013 08:05 AM can i get that gunsafe couch found here http://www.gizmag.com/couchbunker-gun-safe-furniture/28758/ with it? Just saying, lets do this right offthegrid September 18, 2013 01:02 PM "and apocalyptic escapes" Please, These are some pretty vehicles and campers but how far do they go when gas stations are closed. References and other comments like that make me chuckle. Come on deluded dreamers, can't you see having a "bug out bag" in your car is handy to have but what are you going to do when your car or camper runs out of gasoline and your 3, 5 or 14 days of food are gone? I enjoy dreaming too but healthy dreams are best kept closer to reality than unrealistically distant and not completely disconnected from reality. Satweavers September 18, 2013 02:44 PM I don't EVER want to camp next to one of those. Being boxed in by the conventional 'Begos are bad enough. Vince Pack September 18, 2013 03:24 PM offthegrid - it's hard to tell whether you're being cheeky or plain deluded. Most people live with the presumption that the world as we know will not end on any given Thursday without notice and have to spend the rest of their days in an armoured vehicle for survival. Lets assume that it does go down that way...A tank full of fuel will get you far enough away from any densely populated urban center to offer relative isolation. With a vehicle like this, you now have a decent parked (still potentially mobile) base camp. If you happen to be one of those folk certain the world will end in some sudden outbreak, alien invasion, or zombie proliferation, you'll have a respectable arsenal and solar panels stuffed away in said vehicle. Your posts are starting to sound more and more like "that computer guy" who berates all those who ask for assistance with their tech problems. Stephen N Russell September 18, 2013 09:35 PM Like the Unicat & Dusseldorf RV models best EZ to add armor to hulls, (alas hurt gas milage). Nairda September 18, 2013 10:11 PM @Vince PackIf the world was turning pear shaped, why would you actually want to get away from civilization? For months or possibly years after the 'event', cities would be the source of gas stations, food and water reserves, not to mention ample shelter. The notion that you can 'escape' into the wild is a concept created by people that never leave their comfort zone and 'camp' for a few days with all facilities provided.On topic, if any of these vehicles are actually destined for sustainable out of city living, I would have expected to see solar panels, electric drive (as backup to combustion) or a diesel serial hybrid. You would need water sterilization modules, and modular room designs, and a waste processing module. Less wood and more steel/aluminium in the enclosures, and better ventilation in the cabins. I second Isaac Mark Hanninen on the gun safe under the seat, as well as additional cool room/refrigerated containers to hold the equivalent of 2-3 sheep or equivalent mass. You would also need storage for enough tools to maintain the vehicle itself, fold-able ramps, including compressed air tools, and fire proof chemical storage bins for lubricants and paints. The vehicle would also need a hefty communications module on different bands from HAM upwards, to keep in contact with other groups.Beyond that, a hefty supply of large canvas tarps to expand covered living quarters if the number of people in the group expand, or if you need additional coverage against the harsh elements (different seasons).And unless the vehicle engine could not fulfill the task, a dedicated 3-4KVA diesel generator. Diesel because you can make more fuel from plants in the area, or modified cooking oil. Plus diesel is lower maintenance, longer life. Griffin September 19, 2013 04:41 PM @nairdaI'm glad I won't be around watching you trying to make biodiesel from "plants in the area".Think before you type.If anything, convert a gas engine to run on biomass. There's videos and sites on it all over the web.There will be organic trash,that's for sure.As for these machines, anyone that can afford these things is not your typical "prepper".The big ones can run a campsite for a month or more on their fuel&septic suppliesand have solar panels&windmills for moderate long-term usage.You could live in one of those things the rest of your life as long as you were parked in a decent climate with good water where you can fish and manage a garden(preferably a greenhouse). Nairda September 20, 2013 02:07 AM Hi Griffin, I actually have made bio diesel (or equivalent of) from olives. Not that hard, and prefer it to capturing ethanol or methane from plant matter decay. Regarding preppers, the article lists a large number of vehicles, to which i was referring to a cheaper trailable one. Referring strictly to the big one, yes that would not be what the standard person would purchase unless they wished to be outdoors for extended periods. Even the four wheel truck variety would likely be around the EU150K equipped making them non-viable for the weekender. However in saying that, in my neck of the woods there is a yearly spring 'grey nomad migration' (retired people caravan convoys), and you can definitely tell a good portion of them have spent their kid's inheritance on their mobile homes. And while most are caravan configuration, I have seen the odd truck type. To refer to your notion of advanced cashed up preppers, I've spoken to a number of these caravan families and I can tell you wealth does not buy common sense. Most were exactly the kind of people that would perish by their own hand if left unsupervised.But I do agree with your comment about sustainable living with the right extensions (solar, septic supplies, water purification). Its just not highlighted in this article. Anthony Maw September 22, 2013 10:02 PM I came across a convoy of these and similar vehicles in the Taklamakan Desert oasis city of Turfan out in the western China desert back in 2007. A group of Germans and Austrians were driving overland from "Berlin to Beijing" and back - that's what they are made for!!