watersworm September 24, 2018 06:54 AM CO2 an "unwanted element" ??? Ask plants and the Planet in general when more CO2 in the atmosphere leads to a greater greening of the Planet. minivini September 24, 2018 07:59 AM That’s a delusional comment. Plants have evolved, just like mammals, to use CO2 in the ratio it exists in nature - a little less than 1%. Just like if O2 levels increased much beyond the current 21%, it would be bad news for us animals, the worlds plant population would suffer from too much CO2. I’m going to surmise by your comment that you don’t believe CO2 is the primary culprit in climate change, but yes - that, too, is a nasty byproduct of too much CO2. warmisgood September 24, 2018 01:33 PM Below is an excerpt from a university study on ideal CO2 levels in Greenhouses for plant growth.. Current CO2 PPM levels in the world are around ~400 ppm."Supplementation of CO2 is seen as beneficial for most crops. The level to which the CO2 concentration should be raised depends on the crop, light intensity, temperature, ventilation, stage of the crop growth and the economics of the crop. For most crops the saturation point will be reached at about 1,000–1,300 ppm under ideal circumstances." Douglas Bennett Rogers September 24, 2018 02:27 PM Cellular metabolism requires about 4% CO2. This was the concentration of CO2 when cellular life evolved. Dessert irrigation represents about five times the greenhouse effect of industrial CO2. Lamar Havard September 24, 2018 02:46 PM Converting CO2 doesn’t require anything but plants. And the more there is, the more oxygen plants produce for US to use. So, use some CO2 to make your batteries and charge us more to buy them even though they cost YOU less to build. ChairmanLMAO September 24, 2018 04:02 PM pretty much CO that we don't want but what would we drive? who would pay for the gas we need to keep the economy running? Ryan Cragg September 24, 2018 08:29 PM The "CO2 is plant food" argument is a little too simplified. In the real world, outside of the greenhouse, increased CO2 has little benefit to most plants. https://skepticalscience.com/co2-is-plant-food-too-simple.html minivini is more correct than watersworm or warmisgood Kpar September 25, 2018 01:21 AM minivini, learn some geology. CO2 has been present in much larger quantities in the past (during both warm periods and cold) and modern commericial greenhouses use concentrations much more than TEN TIMES greater than in the atmosphere.Besides, CO2 is a compound, not an element... MarkGatti September 25, 2018 04:09 AM good grief ,there are still people who believe in anthropomorphic global warming !? it was dreamed up purely as a political tool to redistribute wealth [incredibly inefficiently as it turns out ],, 3 ipcc members are now on record admitting this !!. [ fyi the ratio of o2 and nitrogen is locked ,worldwide ,to a very fine tolerance ,has baffled science ,except prof pollack may have found a reason at last ]. unlike the fact that co2 is greenhouse gas !! ,meaning they pump more ,much more ,into greenhouses to benefit the plants . The big hot ball in the sky however is at a Maunder minimum [look it up ] which is quite unnerving ,as this is linked to both cooling and increased volcanic activity , factorsinc that could lead to more water in atmosphere and it getting frozen ,,as ,,mini ice age ! ,, this could affect the polar bears ,that are flourishing at present thanks . BeinThayer September 25, 2018 06:27 PM Ryan Cragg, the 'skeptical science' page you linked to is written by someone either with poor reading comprehension that happened to make papers align with their worldview or with the intent to distort acedemic papers to support the their worldview. The page stated outdoor open air enhanced CO2 studies yielded 50% less than greenhouse enhanced CO2 studies. The linked papers don't say that. They say that the outdoor studies showed up to a 50% reduction in the in the yield Enhancement for outdoor vs greenhouse. Note, the yield isn't half, the improvement in yield is could be just half of indoor experiments. Even at half, the improvement can be sizeable. The importance of reading with a critical eye is not diminished just because what you are reading supports your argument. If anything it becomes even more important.