Nicky Hansard
What had to random changes through the generations?
ripshin
Wow, just like cagw, where even the absence of change (e.g. 0 increase in global temp for 15+ yrs...according to the satellite record) is proof of this "settled science", we now have the absence of evolution as proof of this "fact".
With such restless and skeptical minds at the helm of our scientific inquiry, how could we possibly go wrong?
rip
Guy Macher
Nothing shakes the faith of the devoted followers of evolution.
Expanded Viewpoint
What "random changes" are being referred to here? How do you know that they really were "random", and by that word I think that you actually mean spontaneous? Can you point to any such changes that were recorded by anyone, besides yourself? A change in any organism's DNA that is caused by exposure to radiation or a chemical compound or element is NOT a spontaneous event, and maybe not even be a real random event either, as those things are outside (meaning environmental) changes/forces. Do you see this? You need to open up your eyes in order to be able to see. To Ripshin; If anyone really believes that a lack of temperature change is proof of global warming, man made or otherwise, then use the converse and let them stick their hand in a pot of boiling water to prove that the water is not any hotter than it was before the heat was applied to it. Or did you confuse something there in your statement?
Randy
rutnerh
Not surprising! Perfectly supports Darwin's valid theory of intra species evolution by natural selection in response to environmental stress, as empirically proven in his Galapagos experiments: in this case of no stress, obviously no evolution or physical change. But his second theory of vertical inter species evolution is pure philosophical speculation without supporting evidence of random mutations leading to anything but reduced complexity and in organisms to damaging or lethal mutations. But evolutionists consciously or unintentionally have mingled 2 theories, on scientific and the other philosophical into a hybrid called evolution thereby misleading a gullible public including many scientists into accepting random upward evolution as " scientific fact". Nothing could be further from the truth. Hr rationally grounded industrial never academic scientist
Lbrewer42
"Given that evolution is a fact, this lack of evolution needs to be explained."
Welcome to the modern Dark Ages. We have come full circle. But this time the people who so adamantly want to deny religious belief are playing the part of those they so adamantly claim were the fools in the past... the religious community of the day.
Yes - b/c no evolution occurred with these organisms - it proves evolution! Global warming has not occurred (no kidding) during the last 15 years we have been being told it is a proven science - but yet global warming is a still a "proven science."
Its amazing how roles can be switched with enough time. And these (pseudo) "scientists" have also played out several teachings of what religious people have known to be true for centuries: 1. ... man does not change (our toys are higher tech - but the mind of man is still a prideful - egotistical - place). 2. "He that diggeth a pit will fall therein" (reversed roles - the "scientists" are the ones promoting we ignore observable fact). 3. "Professing themselves to be wise - they became as fools." What else can you say about someone who actually asks us to swallow that the opposite of what supports their theory is also proof of their theory?
Observable data does not prove evolution - far from it. Genetics, fossil records, and even the media-pushed/applauded but fairy tale dating methods (study it deeply and how it relies upon constant amounts of certain isotopes over all of time, when evolution itself demands everything was changing). Evolution is as much a faith based system as any religious system.
If you don't believe it... look into Stephen Hawkins writings where he cites "some mysterious force" expanded the matter on the universe as part of the alleged "Big Bang."
Want more? Black holes - the FACT they exist has been touted by the media for a loooong time. And now Hawkings, who discovered them - is saying they don;t even exist! http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/science-technology/455880/Stephen-Hawking-says-there-is-no-such-thing-as-black-holes-Einstein-spinning-in-his-grave
Evolution is a fact? Welcome to the modern Dark Ages. Pitiful isn't it?
bobcat4424
This article is quite a bit out of date as far as the science goes:
1) Darwinian Evolution --- the slow incremental evolution of one species into another by natural selection --- has not been accepted as valid in around 40 years. The best reason is that such gradualism was never supported by the fossil record. 2) The current theory is Punctuated Equilibrium (PE) which proposes that organisms remain the same for very long periods of time and then suddenly, for unknown reasons, undergo "explosions" of evolution and speciation. It is supported by the fossil record. 3) We do not know precisely what causes the large sudden bursts of evolution that we see in Punctuated Equilibrium (most researchers postulate it is some vague unknown "stress") and we do know why it happens simultaneously in unrelated species, environments, and locations. 4) A grand example of PE is what is current happening with hummingbirds. There is an ongoing explosion in the number of species of hummingbirds with 2-3 new species a year. It is happening globally in populations that are under stress and populations that are not stressed in any known way. 5) There is nothing about a fossil record of a species that did not evolve significantly for billions of years. It neither proves nor disproves Darwinian Evolution which would have required random changes over time that apparently are not there. It does, however, fit with PE which does not require that an organism change in any way, either by natural selection or random occurrence.
christopher
@bobcat4424: LOL - two words mate: "peppered moth"
Bob
Scientific theories are useful but suddenly become a detriment when they are presented as FACT. It gets even worse when these sacred theories have obvious flaws which are then supported by imaginary concepts rather than simply formulating a new theory.
warren52nz
Oh oh. Here come the religious with an endless string of strawmen.