preferanonymous
Methanol and ethanol can be made easily from plants. There's no reason not to do this.
Hydrogen production currently requires massive amounts of hydrocarbons, in addition to the pressurization problem. Who wants to drive around with a steel fuel tank holding 3500 psi ? The seals don't last.
CO2 emissions by a fuel cell for an electric vehicle are the best the world will get to extend range. Even lithium air batteries are only 20% more effective. That's hardly 'pulling socks up'.
Refuelling methanol is trivial -- it's a perfect replacement to E85 (15% ethanol gas). The refiners will love to provide it, and it's not as explosive. This is practically what the refiners are flaring off now. In Russia, Siberia is lit up at night by the stuff. Additionally, you can synthesize it.
For the fools that think refineries should be 'put out of business', give up your phone, internet, and car and go live in a cave.
Gizmowiz
Same old oil industry desperately trying to fool people into sticking with hydrocarbon diet
fred48
Without any battery configuration, a 5kw generator seems to be nothing more than a trickle charger if any moderately sized rechargeable battery comparable to the standard bearer, Teslas 90 kw lithium is used.
guzmanchinky
You nailed all of the downsides in the article. I'm surprised someone else didn't think through all that before spending a lot of money developing this admittedly very nice car...
mark00
The oil industry absolutely hates the idea of letting you charge your battery-powered electric vehicle with solar panels on your roof because it puts them out of their trillion dollar business. No need to buy diesel fuel, gasoline, methanol, compressed hydrogen or anything else from them. They already purchased the Republican Party, so expect even more hypocritical proposals from them to hurt American companies and people trying to promote clean energy and personal energy independence.
jakey1234
I also understand that one of the problems with a methanol fuel cell phone is that the methanol is not the normal methanol you buy. It has to be very pure and very free of water.
tim27
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Martin Hone
Good comments, but no one has mentioned what is meant by a carbon fibre chassis and a chrome-moly steel frame.
S Redford
Methanol is a very good way to handle and store energy for fuel-cells. It can be blended with petrol and can run conventional car engines, so it also represents a good transition fuel. Yes it ‘farts CO2’, but a more sensible way of looking at it in a renewable future is that it ‘borrows CO2’ in a biomass cycle to manufacture methanol. Local CO2 emissions are not the issue! Most hydrogen is currently produced from fossil fuels which ‘fart’ CO2 in vast quantities during production. A few other useful facts; methanol has an energy density (~18MJ/Litre) around half that of petrol (~35MJ/Litre) but has a high octane number which may give scope for higher efficiency in conventional engines. The energy density of methanol is an order of magnitude better than compressed hydrogen and is safer to handle than conventional fuels. Like hydrogen, methanol can be manufactured from natural gas or coal, but can also be efficiently produced from biomass. Methanol is actually a way of safely carrying hydrogen, but can be used directly in some fuel cells. Compressing hydrogen to get a realistic energy density (MJ/Litre) adds a further inefficiency in its production and use as a fuel. Conventional fuelling equipment can be used with methanol and provides rapid ‘charging’ equivalent to many MW compared to kW charging rates for electricity.
The author rightly points out that the output of the fuel cell is low compared to the ridiculous peak power of this car. However, the goal seems to be range extension rather than complete replacement of charging. For economic driving you may achieve 0.2 kWh/mile, so a 5kW output is equivalent to adding 25 miles to range every hour of operation. For urban, stop-start driving this could be very significant and the heat from the fuel-cell could provide necessary cabin heating without using battery power. For open road driving, the fuel-cell effectively covers 25 mph of the total vehicle speed so considerably extending the range of the vehicle.
I think the words, “but unless we're missing some very key points”, are relevant – time to take a serious look at more realistic ways of moving towards a renewable future.
JimFox
Ridiculous concept 100% trashed by this writer- well said, sir!