exodous
Now we just sit back and wait for 20 more studies saying the exact opposite that will come out in the next few weeks. Honestly, we have no idea what is causing the earth to warm up, and there are studies saying it isn't anyway. All I can do personally is walk/bike more places (for my health if nothing else) and sort out my recyclables from my trash (to lesson how much is buried if nothing else) and let everyone debate endlessly on this.
JweenyPwee
"Unexpected link"? Are you freaking kidding me? No one thought that as the Sun grows bigger and hotter as it burns through its hydrogen just like every other star in the known universe does that the process would in turn heat up surrounding planets? Are you telling me that bringing the oven closer to my hand makes my hand hotter? NO WAY!
But by all means, keep buying your Priuses. That lithium comes from magic fairies, right?
It's almost as if someone profits from environmental buzzwords and the general public's scientific complacency...
Anne Ominous
"... regional climate is more influenced by the sun than previously thought." ... by climate alarmists who have been profiting from the hype the last 10 years, that is.
Up until very recently, the idea that solar variability drove climate was taken as a given. It was only in recent decades that there was a claimed "deviation" between climate and the solar cycles.
But as we have been finding out, more and more over the last 2+ years, is that much of this "deviation" could be due to the very "adjustments" that have been made to the temperature data, ostensibly to correct for various kinds of measurement errors.
asdf
"It's almost as if someone profits from environmental buzzwords and the general public's scientific complacency... " - JweenyPwee
Really? you're only starting to think that now? The earth has been warming since the ice age, it doesn't worry me. What does worry me is the destruction and polution of the planet.
watersworm
Meanwhile... the IPCC claims human induced GW is a 95% certainty !!! Morons ...
Mel Tisdale
If only it were possible to restrict climate change so that it only affected those who don’t believe in it, or think there is nothing we can do about it. One can imagine such people on the Titanic, some refusing to believe that there is a big white thing dead ahead, while others are arguing that because the big white thing is not anthropogenic in origin, there is nothing we can do about it So, “full steam ahead, captain, there is nothing to worry about!”
If, instead of leaping to conclusions, people actually read the above article they would find that it is mainly about regional climates being affected by changes to wind and ocean circulations brought on by variations in the sun's output. It adds that it does have some overall influence on how the Milankowiec cycles operate, though they themselves are miniscule in their influence. That is way science works, extending our knowledge. Of course the sun affects earth's climate, it is the source of all our energy, so how could it do otherwise? What we do not know is just how valid this report is. For that we are going to need others to repeat the work. That too is also the way science works.
It is questionable as to who the "morons" referred to in the above comments really are when we have severe droughts, violent flooding and increased storm intensities, entirely in line with climate model predictions, yet the topic can still generate some, if not all, of the above comments.
We know that we are headed for at least 3 degrees C rise in global temperatures, which is going to have dramatic effects, not least of which will be in agriculture. One would have thought that the prospect of starving to death would be sufficiently worrying to persuade people to question the MSM's take on the matter, especially its need for advertising revenue as dictated by the fossil fuel industry. Isn't it in fact moronic not to explore the matter sensibly, instead of simply parroting what FOX News and the like have to say about it?
Anyone so inclined could do worse than visit skepticalscience.com, where they will find a load of information on the topic. It is also worth watching Admiral Titley's TED talk at: www.youtube.com/watch?v=7udNMqRmqV8 to see just how concerned the American navy is about climate change. The navy cannot afford to simply dismiss the notion that climate change is all a hoax the way above commenters do because they have some very real problems coping with sea-level rise and what it is going to do to their ports and their vessels' abilities to use them. The insurance industry is similarly constrained because climate change is going to cost them a lot of money, as can be seen in this article: http://www.pwc.co.uk/sustainability-climate-change/issues/insurance-leaders-respond-to-climate-change.jhtml
There can be no denying that the greenhouse effect is real. We know that without it, the earth would be just under 35 C cooler than it is today and we would not exist. There can be no denying that CO2 is a greenhouse gas and there can be no denying that it is very long-lived in the atmosphere. There can be no denying that even if we stopped pumping the stuff into the atmosphere today, we are destined to at least a 3 C rise since the start of the Industrial Revolution with a business as usual approach. There can be no denying that we as a species have a problem, unless one cannot be bothered to study just how much harm that is going to create, of course.
If it weren't so sad, one could see many of the above comments as a case of turkeys voting for Christmas, or Thanksgiving, depending on which side of the pond one is.
Jason Stanislaw
The SUN affects OUR climate?! No $#!t?!
Fred Smith
The last ice age ended about 10,000 years ago. How did that global warming happen with out humans?
John Roberts
Great, one more study that allows AGW deniers to further muddy the climate change waters. On close reading it is obvious that solar activity does not influence the Earth's temperature directly but may influence the latitude of the polar vortexes. This may cause regional climate change, but for every place that gets warmer another region gets colder. Basically the overall temperature of the planet is not greatly affected. But global warming deniers will twist this scientific finding and scream "the suns light controls mean temperature of the earth, and there is nothing we can do about it!!"
Pete Finnegan
These researchers from Sweden obviously aren't in the loop. They didn't get the memo. The science is settled; the sun has been ruled out. Ruled out.