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1,200 km/h TransPod FluxJet: Canadian hyperloop reels in half a billion

1,200 km/h TransPod FluxJet: Canadian hyperloop reels in half a billion
The TransPod FluxJet, a vacuum-tube mag-lev pod allegedly capable of 1,200 km/h speeds
The TransPod FluxJet, a vacuum-tube mag-lev pod allegedly capable of 1,200 km/h speeds
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The TransPod FluxJet, a vacuum-tube mag-lev pod allegedly capable of 1,200 km/h speeds
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The TransPod FluxJet, a vacuum-tube mag-lev pod allegedly capable of 1,200 km/h speeds
It'll look just like this, but faster
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It'll look just like this, but faster
Shades of the Nebuchadnezzar from the Matrix movies
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Shades of the Nebuchadnezzar from the Matrix movies
Without air resistance or rolling resistance to slow them down, vacuum-tube trains could theoretically hit incredible speeds
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Without air resistance or rolling resistance to slow them down, vacuum-tube trains could theoretically hit incredible speeds
You want cabin renders? They got cabin renders. Look, the seats are nice and white
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You want cabin renders? They got cabin renders. Look, the seats are nice and white
There'll be sick touchscreens in the seats, if you're fast enough to enjoy them before you get there
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There'll be sick touchscreens in the seats, if you're fast enough to enjoy them before you get there
"Preliminary construction work" has begun on an Edmonton-Alberta link. This includes an environmental impact assessment, and should not be confused with actual construction
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"Preliminary construction work" has begun on an Edmonton-Alberta link. This includes an environmental impact assessment, and should not be confused with actual construction
How blue the skies. How green the grass. How shiny the tubes
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How blue the skies. How green the grass. How shiny the tubes
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Faster than a jet plane and about half the price. Yes, it's another hyperloop-style vacuum-tube train – this time from Canada. TransPod says it's started preliminary construction on a tube that'll fire you from Calgary to Edmonton in 45 minutes.

Unveiled last week in Toronto, the TransPod FluxJet is more than just a masterclass in bicapitalization. This ultra-high-speed ground transport system promises "groundbreaking innovations in propulsion," clean energy compatibility, and "technological leaps in contactless power transmission and a new field of physicals called veillance flux."

At its heart, it's the same old promise people have been making since pneumatic-tube message delivery systems were the new hotness back in the 1800s. Minimize wind resistance by running a pod in a near-vacuum, and then fire people and goods across the country at speeds that would require insane horsepower and heat dispersal in open air.

Shades of the Nebuchadnezzar from the Matrix movies
Shades of the Nebuchadnezzar from the Matrix movies

As with the Hyperlooop, Hyperloop TT, Hyperloop One, ET3, HyperPort and many other such designs we've seen, the FluxJet will eliminate rolling resistance from the equation as well, using mag-lev technology. In this case, though, that'll only kick in once the train's out of town and ready to boogie through the high-speed sections. A set of "landing gear" won't retract until the pod's doing at least 300 km/h (186 mph) and ready to accelerate up to a cruise speed around 1,000 km/h (621 mph) – or a top speed as high as 1,200 km/h (746 mph) if you're in a hurry.

The company reveals little about its "groundbreaking innovations," although we glean that the veillance flux bit relates to a visual positioning system that scans the tube ahead and adjusts the pod's position in the tube according to what's coming up. Each 25-m (82-ft)-long pod, seating up to 54 passengers or carrying some quantity of time-sensitive cargo, will have four "levitation engines" extending outwards from its upper and lower diagonals on suspension arms, and as a result it looks totally super cool.

The pods will carry some onboard battery reserves, but when it's time to go really fast, they'll extend a contactless power pickup unit to receive power from the tube. Plasma is involved; indeed, it glows a sweet, sci-fi purple in the render video.

It'll look just like this, but faster
It'll look just like this, but faster

TransPod says it's raised US$550 million in funding, and is moving to the next phase with a project spanning the 300-odd km (186-odd miles) between Calgary and Edmonton. "Preliminary construction work, including the environmental impact assessment, has begun," reads the TransPod website. This tube, costed at US$18 billion, promises 45-minute trips between the two cities for around US$75, replacing more than three hours of driving, or a plane ticket worth around US$125.

It'll take almost a third of the traffic off the highway joining Calgary to Edmonton, says TransPod, and every passenger will save so much carbon thanks to its green power that the overall effect will be as if you'd planted a tree. The company expects to reduce carbon dioxide emissions by 636,000 tonnes annually.

There'll be sick touchscreens in the seats, if you're fast enough to enjoy them before you get there
There'll be sick touchscreens in the seats, if you're fast enough to enjoy them before you get there

Probably the most impressive thing about this project is that TransPod has talked half a billion dollars out of investors. The FluxJet will most likely suffer from the same problems that have plagued every other vacuum tube transport system ever attempted. To briefly summarize:

  • Mag-lev rail is already insanely expensive and often economically unviable in its own right. Next-gen mag-lev systems that need to be kept in vacuum tubes for hundreds of miles will be a lot more expensive
  • Evacuating air from 300 km of tubes is difficult and energy-intensive
  • Leaks, tube breaches, seismic activity, malfunctions or terrorist acts could have absolutely catastrophic results
  • Even the slightest deviation from a straight line at 1,000 km/h could throw passengers and cargo around

Now, TransPod's 18-billion dollar proposal for the Calgary to Edmonton link would appear to cost this project at US$60 million per km – a number that would compete fairly favorably with other high-speed rail proposals in the area. At the end of the day, though, Canada has considered many proposals for fast train travel – but it remains the one G7 nation that's never built any. It seems unlikely that this will be the first.
Check out a video below.

TransPod Age of Innovation - July 2022

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16 comments
16 comments
paul314
Their renders appear to have much more clearance between the pod and the inside of the tube, so potentially less drag from that interaction. Do they have to get the pressure down as far as other systems?
Rick O
My thoughts on this remain the same since the day Musk proposed Hyperloop systems. You will expend MUCH more energy evacuating the tubing, than you will in fighting drag. Japan makes high speed rail work, and there are improvements that can be made in propulsion, aerodynamics, and safety. That should be the focus, not wasting time and money on vaporware hyperloop systems. If it was really a good idea, Musk would have capitalized on it himself, instead of "gifting it" to the world.
cjeam
"Evacuating air from 300 km of tubes is difficult and energy-intensive"

Is it actually even technically possible?
Username
@Rick. Musk's original white paper didn't involve maglev or near vacuum . The pod had a huge fan in front, the idea involved grabbing the air in front and pushing it out at the back while using some of it to "float" the pod. The pressure was lower than 1atm but no where near a vacuum to the point where it could be maintained even with some leakage. None of the so called hyperloop projects have stayed true to the idea. Every engineer in the world told him it wasn't possible to land a rocket upright. If he had not developed it himself and instead just offered the idea, I suspect we still wouldn't have rockets that land.
mark34
"every passenger will save so much carbon thanks to its green power "...considering that the Alberta energy grid is primarily fed by coal and natural gas generation???
Also, what about a catastrophic air leak through the pod wall during while the main tube is evacuated of air...does one suffer the 'bends' as a scuba diver ascending too quickly ? A major breach of the tube wall would send a hurricane of air down the tube towards a pod traveling at 1000km/hr ...the deceleration would be an interesting experience (NOT !)
BlueOak
Wow, talk is cheap and there’s lots of bluster here. $18 billion is more than trivial money. What happens at 750 mph when there’s a catastrophic vacuum failure and instead of flying at 35,000 feet with time to adjust, you’re mere feet from the ground?
Bob809
Hey Rick O, Just a thought. If they use the airlock system, the main strectch of tube is always just vacuum. So the Pod enters an area of the tube where the door ahead is closed, the section the Pod is now in has the door close behind the Pod, and is then brought to the same vacuum level as the main stretch of tube. The door ahead opens when the lack of pressure equalises, and the Pod can proceed, whisking people from city to city. That's how I imagine it working.
SteveMc
So, what happens when the passenger pod pressure fails when inside the vacuum tube? I guess your stomach and lungs becomes a string of bum-balloons?
Bruce H. Anderson
The question may be how much quicker will this be than a regular train? Comfortable acceleration will determine how long it takes to get to top speed and back down again. So maybe the trip on a train would be 1 hour vs 45 minutes in the tube? Although the infrastructure cost may be the same as other modes of high-speed transport, a larger question may be the energy cost to run the system. If you don't have to create a vacuum, and don't need to fight gravity, that might offer considerable long-term savings.
LiamKoot
Doc Brown called, he wants his "Flux" capacitor back. No real mention of how this is going to be propelled, one can only imagine that it would have to be electric as a jet engine wouldn't work in a vacuum. I say good luck to them trying to wirelessly get the sort of power into the pod that would be needed to drive motors to those sort of speeds, unless they are going to try and go with something akin to how a rail gun works. Either way, it will require huge amounts of energy to only move 50 people. Rather plant the actual tree and take a train or bus. at least the actual tree will be worth looking at and could be a home to a host of animals rather than a virtual tree supposedly saved - which it wont.
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