Aristotle November 4, 2016 05:48 PM Total UN b.s., just another way to redistribute wealth from the developed world to the undeveloped world. There has been no documented global warming for approximately 15 years. Of course as we came out of the last mini-Ice age period, the globe has warmed (thankfully). Refugees fleeing flooding, fire, famine and war has occurred through all of history. Remember, the UN has put countries with horrible human rights histories on the Human Rights Board. LordInsidious November 4, 2016 07:00 PM We need to start talking seriously about extracting GHG from the atmosphere if we want to go beyond the Paris agreement. DavidOldham November 5, 2016 02:14 AM The US which did not ratify it is the only major industrial country to meet the goals of the Kyoto Treaty. That was supposed to be the end all to the climate change melodrama. Fast forward to the latest statists' attempt to control the human condition, it's all a farce about control, nothing more nothing less. They are coming for your heating and air conditioning. Don't believe me well google John Kerry and air conditioning (read it and weep for humanity that people like him are given positions of importance in our world). The biggest factors in our climate are the sun and water vapor and the rest is scientific fantasy. Yes we are all going to die fortunately climate change will have nothing to do with it. srmalloy November 7, 2016 12:58 AM From a 2010 interview with Ottmar Edenhofer, then co-chair of the IPCC Working Group III: "First of all, developed countries have basically expropriated the atmosphere of the world community. But one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy. Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiastic about this. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole." He made a similar statement prior to the Cancun climate summit in 2010: "The next world climate summit in Cancun is actually an economy summit during which the distribution of the world’s resources will be negotiated."In 1992, Maurice Strong, organizer of the first climate summit in Rio de Janeiro, said: “We may get to the point where the only way of saving the world will be for industrialized civilization to collapse. Isn’t it our responsibility to bring this about?” At the summit, then Deputy Assistant of State Richard Benedick, who at the time headed the policy divisions of the U.S. State Department, said: “A global warming treaty must be implemented even if there is no scientific evidence to back the greenhouse effect.”Kevin Trenberth, a lead author of 2001 and 2007 IPCC report chapters, writing in a 2007 “Predictions of Climate” blog appearing on the science website Nature.com, admitted: “None of the models used by the IPCC are initialized to the observed state and none of the climate states in the models correspond even remotely to the current observed state.”"Climate Change" has never been about ecological principles. watersworm November 7, 2016 06:50 AM @lordinsidious : That's the most hilariously funny thing i read for moments... Extract 0,04% of a life giving trace gas ??? What does the vegetation think about ? And the Economics ? Another funny idea is to correlate egg by egg a 0,01% CO2 EMISSION with a 0,001 Celsius (or Fahrenheit, or Kelvin) Sure our GOVERNANTS are going to stop the awful AGW grandstanding and fabricating silly so-called "green" policies (Wind, Sex and Sun ???) OMG can anybody show us ONE so called "climate refugee" ? Unless all war or famine refugees are considered as "climate" ( THE scapegoat). @srmalloy : Sure, no ONE model is available for the future It's mathematics ! (Except at random or with foolish scenarios ofdecrease of GHG's concentration in the atmosphere, when they are told to remain for decades or even centuries, so spot the mistake) And YES Ecology (the "Greens") and IPCC are all about Politics, not Science. So now, breathe normally ! watersworm November 7, 2016 07:30 AM (Head illustration) It is water vapor, not CO2 ! Uh UH, in fact water vapor is about 75% of GHG... uh uh ... Douglas Bennett Rogers November 7, 2016 04:32 PM Four fifths of anthropogenic greenhouse warming is from desert irrigation. This can be seen by looking at morning lows (afternoon wet bulbs ) in the desert southwest, especially where there are lots of golf courses and evaporative cooling. These run around 68 F in July and August and are often as high as 75 F. bwana4swahili November 7, 2016 07:00 PM Personally, I'm kinda looking forward to that 2C increase in temperature! Would sure make winters more enjoyable. amazed W1 November 8, 2016 12:38 PM Number one priority is to stop the uncontrolled growth in the human population and then to steadily and fairly reduce the global population back to the 1916 or other truly sustainable level. Global warming, like water shortage food shortage and even pollution, is a symptom and not the basic cause of most of our current global problems. We need religious, political intellectual leaders to have the courage to say so- the most unpopular idea that there is, and then to implement population reduction programmes. Economists have to get off the easy mantra that all economies must expand when precisely the opposite is what is needed. UrbaneCowboy November 8, 2016 09:44 PM Absolute, total BS by another unthinking, propagandizing alarmist.