Video: What needs to happen for EVs to become mainstream?
Video: What needs to happen for EVs to become mainstream?
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Presenters from all over the world were in attendance at last week's Future of Electric Vehicles USA 2010 conference, sharing the latest developments in electric transportation of all types. With all those EV experts together in one place, it was a great opportunity to ask the question: "What still needs to happen before electric vehicles can become the dominant form of transportation?"
Hear what experts including Bill Dube (KillaCycle), Montgomery Gisborne (Tamarack Lake Electric Boat Company), Paul Barrett (Bladon Jets), Dr. Brien Seeley (CAFE Foundation) and Timothy Collins (KleenSpeed Technologies) had to say in the video below:
What will it take for EVs to become mainstream?
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Here are my 2 cents for the interveners\' insights:
Ford Motor Company, Syed Haque: Safety, Mileage, Reliability Safety and reliability: nonissue. Considering that I\'m sitting on a highly explosive gas tank, I don\'t see why a battery bank couldn\'t be secured the same. Reliability of an electric motor compared to an engine with much more moving parts doesn\'t even need a comparison. Mileage, well, if I have to chose between having 500km range, shelling out 40%u20AC each time and 160km for 2 may be 3%u20AC coffee included; I prefer the second. Besides, I do make less than 50km daily, so it\'ll be done at home.
IDTechEx, Dr. Peter Harrop: you have to be born electric ! Well, I don\'t know, we can\'t reinvent the wheel each time either.
UCAL, Dr. Tom Turrentine: Major shift of the investments, factories are built with 30 year time frame. Yes, that\'s right. But they had enough time to do just that. Unsighted ones will simply go away.
Automotive Research Center, Dr. Zoran Filipi: increase energy density/decrease the cost of the battery. We have already come a long way, roughly, for lead acid 200:1 to lithium ion 20:1 energy density of gasoline:battery. More is unnecessary for the overtake (that could always continue more comfortably once we are in; seems to me)
KillACycle, Bill Dube: Hang on! Well, the ones who killed the electric car once, will not be able to do it again. The beast, this time, will not let it happen. We\'ll hang on.
Tamarack Lake Electric Boat Company, Montgomery Gisborne: Microwave oven! Nice analogy, I can add to this another one: when Jobs announced the iphone he was not able to see the mass market potentiality of it (look at Nokia now, Big threes are all trembling right now of sharing the same destiny:)
Bladon Jets, Paul Barrett: Range anxiety! nonissue for 90% of us. For the rest 10% if they are willing to know, there are a lot of possibilities, just google. For others, who throw this out each and every time, hopeless situation.(either bought or silly, or both)
CAFE Foundation, Dr. Brien Seeley: Battery technology must advance rapidly and charging points wherever you go. First, batteries/electric motors are advanced enough to compete with oil/combustion engines. It will even get better and better, could be a consideration for not owning the battery pack. Second, ordinary charging spots in each and every parking place, I don\'t see it as a necessity to go mainstream. What can be upscaled following the introduction of EVs: fast charging spots, that\'s a game changer! Kleen Speed Technologies, Timothy Collins: Oil prices / It feels good. OK, if oil prices go up we go crazy about EV. But what about the Oil guy dropping it to hell,.. well, still, I think this time we will not let it go, and yes, it will feel good :)
In my book, The PET Solution, I explain that: \"To expect city travelers to drive/ride CSVs in a heavily-trafficked city without physically separated, dedicated lanes, would be like expecting pedestrians to walk around a busy city that has no sidewalks.\"
Right now there is a big movement to install walking and biking paths around cities. I think that\'s good but it doesn\'t go far enough. I believe that city planners need to start designing paths/lanes for use by CSVs. Having such dedicated lanes/pathways will be a pre-condition to wide acceptance of CSVs as a car-replacement for many of the routine city trips.
You have made excellent points and I agree with you. I believe increased load and grid requirements can be solved by using distributive renewable energy generation where available. IIt is true that more needs to be done to build up this type of infrastructure. Batteries have been improving and will continue to do so, especially on the nano level. It has been discovered that mosaic virus may be used to increase lithium battery plate area by 10X. As the need arises, I am sure load/grid and battery problems may be solved.
the chademo standard of tokyo electric provides for 50kw DC fast charging. No U.S. company or cartel has produced any standards for fast charging. big surprise.
that\'s step 1. after step 1 is accomplished, step2) companies like charepoint and other \'charging equipment\' providers need to develop effective techniques of installing CHARGING STATION EQUIPMENT NOT HOME CHARGERS. there needs to be a regular and cheap method of installing these chargers in any parking lot, or in a GAS STATIONS>
step 3. once there is sufficient popularity. charging stations must find a way to store massive amounts of electricty to provide for peak demand time fast charging. you cannot draw down the current off the grid that will be required to charge cars at peak hours without disturbing the grid. flywheels that are charged off peak can easily solve this problem. charge massive juice off peak in the station, store in the flywheel, sell to customers whenever they need the juice without disturbing peak grid load.
step 4 build more power plants to keep the price of electricity down. because if even 10 percent of auto are electrified this will drive power prices up, not to mention if trucks start using electricity [ that would really put big oil out of business, but it won\'t happen for decades if that]
all the other stuff is complete nonsense.
In my opinion, with no direct insight in the industry but a near future buyer of an EV, the mileage may be important - at least to match todays norm in ICE vehicle, but I think that fast charging of batteries will be the breaking point.
If we get charging times down to under 10 minutes for a full charge I\'m sure there will be no more resistance from the general public. And I think the fact that that would allow current infrastructure to remain more or less unchanged, meaning that in this scenario Gas stations can be converted into Charging stations, would result in faster reform.
These two articles are just examples of how close to reality this is, if there\'s a will.
MIT develops new fast-charging battery technology ideal for automobiles http://www.gizmag.com/go/5228/
Graphene-based supercapacitor hits new energy storage high http://www.gizmag.com/go/17188/
Also, as gas use decreases, electricity used in gasoline production becomes available.
Also modern EV don\'t use Lead Acid batteries any more, so the 50% reduction is not an issue. Range reductions are around 10-20%, and mostly due to load of heating or cooling, not the temperature effects on the Lithium Ion batteries.
Your info is antiquated, that is why none of the experts mentioned it.