1,300 miles to a tank – BYD's new hybrids don't care about your bladder

1,300 miles to a tank – BYD's new hybrids don't care about your bladder
BYD's Qin L DM-i hybrid
BYD's Qin L DM-i hybrid
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BYD's Qin L DM-i hybrid
BYD's Qin L DM-i hybrid
BYD's Qin L DM-i hybrid interior
BYD's Qin L DM-i hybrid interior
BYD's Seal 06 DM-i hybrid sedan
BYD's Seal 06 DM-i hybrid sedan
BYD's Seal 06 DM-ihybrid sedan side view
BYD's Seal 06 DM-ihybrid sedan side view
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Yes, you read that correctly, 1,300 miles (nearly 2,100 km) before you have to refuel or charge it. BYD – the world's leader in EV car sales having recently surpassed Tesla – released its 5th-generation "DM" Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicles.

BYD Auto Co. has just released two models, the Qin L DM-i and the Seal 06 DM-i, both with a ridiculously impressive 81.1 miles per gallon (2.9L/100km) on their internal combustion side, with an additional 49 miles (79 km) with their smaller battery and 74 miles (119 km) on their larger battery in "all-electric" mode. What's equally impressive is their price tag: US$13,762 (¥99,800). The DM stands for Dual Mode – but could equally stand for Deranged Mileage.

Be sure to bring an empty water bottle – or 10 – because fuel stops are no longer going to be necessary.

Both the Qin L and the Seal 06 are based on the same 1.5L inline-4 turbo platform with either a 10-kWh or a 15.8-kWh battery pack. With the little liter-an-a-half punching out a mere 99 hp (74 kW) and 93 lb-ft (126 nm) of torque paired with the 161-hp (125-kW) electric motor, you're not going to set any P100D Plaid times at the drag strip, but you should be able to get where you're going in style and with a thicker wallet when you arrive.

The Seal 06 DM-i
The Seal 06 DM-i

The Warren Buffet backed company said its recent gains in ultra high efficiency are courtesy of its "AI-enabled energy consumption management system" that decides when it's best to switch back and forth between its ICE and its EV capabilities. Its higher trim models are capable of Level 2 automation driving, which basically means you'll still have to hold the wheel and pay attention, but it sounds like it'll have cruise control at the very least.

Granted, these impressive figures are based on the relatively new CLTL testing procedure (China Light Duty Vehicle Test Cycle) which is apparently a bit more generous and optimistic with its figures than that of the EPA (Environmental Protection Agency), which tends to better reflect "real-world" driving conditions. CLTL is the Chinese standard for testing whereas the EPA is the standard in the US. CLTL testing figures can be as much as 30% higher than that of the EPA. Even so, 70% of 1,300 miles (2,092 km) is still a pretty impressive 910 miles (1,465 km) of "real-world" range, if the trend holds true.

All said, the Qin L and the Seal 06 – while having funny names – don't look half bad.

So when are we going to get BYD cars stateside? Probably not anytime soon, sadly. Blame tariffs, Tik-Toks, and political turmoil.

Source: Autohome [1], [2]

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Brian M
Ah at least someone is at least thinking about how to design a sensible hybrid, unfortunately other hybrid car manufacturers still have petrol heads attitudes - Looking at you Mitsubishi.

If you want a hybrid its likely you will prefer battery only range over speed and acceleration (otherwise go for that V6 5L) . The petrol engine is there for the occasional use on long trips, mostly it will be used for daily trips of less than 50 miles. If it could give a 100 miles that would be even better!

Hybrid really beats the concept of all electric at the moment for the average user.
Know one electric owner who has bought a petrol car as well for longer trips and for use in the winter, they like a heater being on!
Our current ICE SUV gets 250 miles per tank. That's all I need, plus AWD. I don't need to drive a hybrid drive train around to access what is unnecessary range for a large majority of drivers (never mind maintaining both ICE and electric drive trains) or, if we're talking pure EV, a "long range" battery that they insist on bundling with AWD. This last simple criterion in particular doesn't leave much to choose from yet.
Hybrids were bridge technology. People are stupid for buying them. You have much greater complexity,and you still have an ICE to get oil changes,filters,etc. EVs are now good enough for everybody,especially Tesla with their comprehensive charging network. Only fools would drive 1300 miles non-stop,and not only for your bladder.
Well people can increase size of their bladders ny adding an external one via a kidney shunt. A 2 liter bag will go all day and night. So maybe 3000 miles including standard bladdet.
c w

I am unclear what point you're making. How is over 80MPG a bad thing, provided one isn't losing considerable cargo room to get it or paying more over the life of the vehicle or period of ownership than ICE. Electric drivetrains are virtually maintenance-free. The batteries (which I guess would be part of the powertrain) are the major wear item.

What is the volume of your SUV's tank?
Why worry about my bladder? Why not my rectum? Regardless, these will never come stateside, so it's all academic.
If they (China) can accomplish this kind of price/ mileage, why can’t we in North America??
Joe Henderson
@Michael_dowling I’ve done 1100 miles a day on a motorcycle, and more than that in a car quite a few times. I’d love to have any motorcycle, gas, hybrid or electric, that would cut my number of fuel stops in half or a third.
Everyone should wait until these new Chinese cars have passed the NHTSA safety standards.
Oops, that mileage is now 785 and the weight is a half kiloton more, with commensurate performance figures.
Paul S
@ Brian. Your are Correct. The silly posts are just that. A hybrid like this, if reliable for its service life, is doing as intended. Reducing fuel burn by a significant amount per vehicle. Period.
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